Why is candelabra of tawnos so good




















Have an untapped Mountain but need your Island untapped instead? This'll fix that. They were artifacts that had activated abilities that included the tap symbol. Cards that were printed with the term "mono artifact" now simply use "artifact. Otherwise, this card would kinda blow. Looks like the most dollar-efficient card in Magic is now Yawgmoth's Will?

I'm going to break down and learn about this whole 'graveyard shenanikers' thing. Right in time for Innistrad, too! I love this card.

I just bought it online, and it is so much better than the Magus of Candelabra. Using it the turn you play it, plus not having to worry about your opponent killing it nearly as much makes a huge difference. It would be even more ridiculous in an artifact deck with Tolarian Academy. Such a great card. Like Ashnod's Altar , this artifact is a key to infinite combos and, if an opponent ever drops it, you should think about getting rid of it sooner than later. I've learned the hard way.

It's not quite so dangerous in the early stages of a game though. It's also a card with which you can abuse Library of Alexandria , responding to your own extra card draw with the Candelabra's ability, perhaps followed with Voltaic Key untapping the Candelabra to do it again.

You use it on dual lands Report Abuse. Of course, I'm definitely not saying that I hear voices in my head. I don't think it's impossible to get banned eventually, but as of right now there is absolutely not enough evidence of it deserving a ban. Of the two recent solid deck finishes that included the card, I don't think Candelabra was the most powerful in either. It won't be banned due to price, at least not while Imperial Recruiter is still so ridiculous. I think if anything that Spiral will get banned before Candelabra does.

Drawing 7 cards, usually for free or a net gain of mana is a bigger issue than untapping lands. Though it would be funny if they banned High Tide instead though I doubt Sprial Tide will become a big enough problem to warrant any ban. If it is seen as a problem in the future, merchant scroll would be a good ban, hindering Spiral's redundancy while getting rid of a tutor from the general legacy card pool.

Candelabra of Tawnos It will be like every other flash in the pan card. It'll be back down to normal value in a week or two. Other than this potential high-tide deck, what value does it have outside of casual? I just don't see it taking first place at Death: I disagree quite massively with a lot of the things you've been saying in these last posts: Candelabra is far from broken, it's never anything but a worse Turnabout at best Time Spiral Time Spiral is pretty terrible when it can't untap Academy.

I mean, High Tide decks are still incredibly awful even with Time Spiral. Doomsday guarantees a kill while Time Spiral gives you seven random cards and may or may not give your opponent a fresh hand of Forces.

The card does nothing in Legacy but will get snapped up because apparently people still haven't learned from the Grim Monolith unbanning. Although the card is incredibly powerful in what it does, the only place I'm playing it is in a casual multi-player Psychic Possession deck so I can go off and kill them with a Conflagrate.

But in my case, I'd much rather see Winds of Change. Time Spiral Cost: 6 mana untaps some lands Does it win you the game on the spot? Adding Time Spiral doesn't change any of that. Sure, he won. Big whoop. The card still shouldn't be this expensive, but it is.

I didn't say it wouldn't spike, I just don't think it should. You could also say the same thing about Legacy playable that does well. If Land Tax was never banned but suddenly did well, it'd spike too I'm sure. As well, I'm sure if you showed up with a new deck that people really aren't prepared for at a SCG tournament you could win it too. Who knows, depending on your matchups, you could go all the way with Mono Red Burn.

Also, I'm pretty sure I was referring to post Eldrazi when I said that. Good for you. Now sell them. I'm not saying Spiral Tide is terrible, I just don't see it taking first place at I have to admit, I didn't think the deck was that great.

It's high tide again. It's not even all that different than the first time around. That said, I still don't think it's that great. It's still the same old High Tide deck of years past. It was a pain to beat back then and is fast, but it's no superdeck. There's been a lot of hate printed since then. Candelabra is a nice trick makes me wonder why we never played it back then , but it's a one trick pony.

I can see perfectly how you could dominate a tournament full of people who have never seen that thing before. It wasn't a bad deck at all, in fact it was pretty damned amazing and I'm surprised the DCI let this one out of the bag again. It was a serious force the first time around.

It's also quite ridiculous if you have never seen how it works and have no idea how to play against it. I expect this trend to continue since most people won't take the time to test against it and even if they do, it's going to be against crappy pilots as it requires some amount of familiarity to play properly. Guess Quinn just got game again. Now just give us that damned Land Tax back!

We need our Parfait! From the Quinn primer on matchups. Solidarity: 1:Graham's Number. I don't think it's actually possible to win this matchup against a competent opponent unless they have a heart attack midway through the round. Granted, I've never tested this matchup out, but it looks completely miserable to the Quinn player to me. Having 8 Chant effects can marginally improve the Spiral High Tide matchup over the Solidarity one, which can just go off with Chant on the stack, but still, the combination of no clock and so many dead board control cards makes the matchup seem untenable.

What am I missing? You realize I'm never going to give in to your comments, don't you Death? If it does, many people spent way too much money, but even then I won't concede defeat. Like already said before, Mishra's Workshop is what? Candelabra is also unrestricted, has same number of copies out there, no real alternatives and is played in a format that is X times more popular than T1.

Seems like easy math. Same like other people spent way too much money on beta duals, P3K cards, or any other scarce card.



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