After two more tumultuous seasons, Discovery Channel has not made a new episode since They jumped at any attempted to call the show out for anything that seemed staged or fake. Staunch viewers brought to light a particular episode where Matt Graham had a book of matches that seemed to always change color. The eagle-eyed viewer pointed out that Graham was holding a book of matches with red tips.
After he handed them to Joe Teti, the matches were green. For the first two and a half seasons of Dual Survival, Cody Lundin notoriously walked around barefoot no matter the condition and always seemed up for anything.
On specific instance involved producers asking Lundin to fall into freezing water to purposely get hypothermia. Lundin was heartbroken when he was let go from the show that he had been a part of for four years.
The braid-wearing former star also had a bone to pick with his replacement, Matt Graham. The hardcore survivalist community is small and tightknit. This lead to many instances of Graham and Lundin not only running in the same circles but being friendly as well. Graham attempted to get a product endorsement from a company by telling them that he had taught Lundin everything that he knows.
Said company, which was unaware of Graham, reached out to Lundin. Lundin obviously refuted the statement and the professional survivalists have been at odds ever since.
When Discovery Channel was looking for somebody to replace Dave Canterbury, they chose Joe Teti, another man with a military background. They were all set to replicate the dynamic between Cody Lundin, the laid-back survivalist, and a tough, American serviceman. One thing they unwillingly might have replicated was hiring another liar.
He also supposedly participated in a government unit so secret that he was not allowed to name the organization, only that it was very, very secret. Congratulations to him, and I wish him all of the best. Then again, I will no longer be watching Dual Survival. Be safe both of you! Cody is an awesome survival expert no doubt in my mind and will be missed big time.
The show with Dave and Cody will alway be the best one!!! Maybe someone will get THAT show back on the air!! Cody should get work on cartoon net. Farrow pig. Joe killed without any help from cody.
But no cody wanted to stay in that brush. Yet another terrible blunder by the idiots who are running the Discovery Network. This is the same group that lost Bear Grylls, that took American Choppers when it was a top-rated cable show and moved it to another network, that threatened to sue some of the captains on Deadliest Catch and almost lost THAT show, and now gets rid of Cody, the guy who for many people is the only to watch Dual Survival.
I will not be watching anymore either. Cody was the heart and sole of the show. Joe is too arrogant. Heis also not right in the head why would anybody drink their own pee really. Who is the one that fed them most of the time. But joe would get a. But he would sure fill his fat. Ego rule everyone. Joe anyday. Great move keeping joe.
Please learn how to type and use punctuation properly. You must be the same kind of abrasive a-hole as Joe… guys like that talk a good game but get there asses handed to them most of the time…. I take a strange comfort in knowing that when things get terrible in the world, liberal group think will reinstate survival of the fittest. Both my gf and I considered Cody as the core of dual survival.
Surely anyone interested in legitimate survival—versus cheap entertainment—will be through with Dual Survival and will follow Cody on his next journey. The action junkies can watch Man vs Wild re-runs and Dual Survival can sweep up the old Survivor crowd, do vote-offs and maybe run back-to-back with Dancing with the Stars. So sorry to hear the news. Cody brought a uniqueness to the show. He brought valm, assertive energy to all he did.
I learned many things from watching Dual Survivor. I looked forward to his sense of humor and wealth of knowledge. I will no longer be watching the show. It has been removed from my dvr. The idea of him teamimg up with Les Stroud sounds incredible! You rock Cody!! I love Codyhe is a real man…back to real basics…. The other dude is scsred of snakes and also irritating. J hope the sbow cets cancelled.
Codi was the core and really funny in his own way. The charm of this show came from the contrast between Joe and Cody — the military survivalist and the hippie survivalist.
Without Cody, we get two military style survivalists — not as much fun. Cody helped create the show and made it a huge success — firing him is a big mistake. They should have worked out their differences.
Shame on you, Discovery Channel! He is arrogant and too animated and tries to make himself look like bthis bigger than life warrior. I too will no longer watch show.
Discovery channel has ruined many peoples lives. I hope JOE gets fired and yes its not same having this new idiot with joe. Ok maybe its weird he wears no shoes even in the snow but maybe this is his unique ability? I agree in a sense but 2 military backgrounds??? Matt graham is an athlete and just a big a hippie as Cody. He has nothing to do with military. Still yet Cody will be missed as I said earler. Cody never over-dramatized anything, and he was usually very sensible and made intelligent decisions that were not based on playing things up for the camera.
Really off base with that drama queen comment. Joe put them in danger when he just had to get the back pack in the ice cravat……he could killed them both…. Joe needs Cody…Cody thrives off Joe….. Is Cody gay…. Drama Queen? Who threw a tantrum over what CODY!
Joe, while I like him, is the Drama Queen, and he takes too many risks. I like a little rationality in my survival show. Joe doesent have half the experience as Coty. Coty has been teaching survival training for 30 years. Coty made that show, now the true survival expert is gone i will not watch anymore. Joes military backround does not teach survival well like what Coty lundin knows.
Joes skill are a joke compared to Cotys. Bad move getting rid of him. I will no longer watch if Cody is gone , Cody that was his show so sad!! Sad sad sad….. Those other guys you find are boring lugs. Good luck discovery your gonna need it. Cody was always the voice of reason that I always listen too.
I know Joe took many for risks and more of a aggressive aprouch , but Cody alway balanced out the situation with common sence that I learned from. I want to learn to survive safely not survive with using my balls instead of my brain.
Discovery has lost there way on this show. I so agree ,Cody always compromised his partner with his silliness.. Well i wont be watching that show anymore or maybe not even that channel. Wonder how well the show will do losing Cody. Probably not well at all. Cody should get a show that has him take a different student out with him every week to teach them survival in an actual situation!
That would get huge ratings imo! Joe lost me the episode he drank his own urine. Cody always used sound judgement to calculate the ultimate outcome. I never watched the show for that poser Joe. Cody was a little eccentric with the no shoe thing but he made up for it with intelligence and confidence.
I really hate to see him go but hope he can survive to find another show. Survivalists know that carry a lot of extra weight can get you killed in a survival situation. Cody was not obese, ya jackass. You need to pick up a dictionary and look up what obese means. Cody most certainly is obese. Cody acted childish in the last episode. Like Matt! Ray your statement is foolish indeed. Cody has been a expert survival instructor for 3 decades.
Joe has very limited survival training from his military backround. When in a survival situation slower is always better i know i teach survival. As far as him being obese i can tell you from spending time in his survival class a few years back. Cody was obese…how many obese survivalist have you ever seen? Survivalists know that carrying a lot of extra weight can get you killed in a survival situation.
The show will be better now. Tony just because you havent trained your bodys mitocondra to adapt to cold weather like coty has for years.
By the way he does teach winter survival. I have been to his desert survival class. And a family of mine went to his winter survival class. So get the right info so you know what your talking about. Joes skills are very limited military skills compared to a 30 year expert.
Once again Ray you make a foolish statement. The slow way is the safe way. You can better asses the terrain and the dangers of the situation. P Dual Survival. Naked and Afraid is a joke if your goal is to learn anything about survival techniques. Most of the contestants have no clue what the hell they doing in the wild. That and who in the hell is gonna be butt naked in the amazon and conveniently with a reverse sex?!
Now in realistic terms a lot of people go barefooted all over especially females. Have fun on your one year payoff for the typical screwing over a Guy for a little more money. You just chopped your own head off.
Dumb da dumb dumb. What is critical thinking? Seriously, please read weeping over your poor, decision-making skills immediately correcting your errors. I am done too discovery can shove it btw I am ex military and dont want to see another military nitwit on the show. Cody is great, sorry the guy from Dude your screwed a show thats a total.
That show was boring after 2 episodes. Hippy amd rambo need to stay. Two people that dont get along that well is what is needed. Sorry Matt just isnt that good. I agree with all that is said above. Discovery seems to not know who is their star players! Cody Lundin made that show not Joe who always spent valuable time making his weapons while Cody tended to fire, shelter and water. Dual Survivor is no longer on my DVR! I placed my DVR to tape all the dual survival shows without Cody. What a waste 4 my children to watch a nut job running around in freezing weather without proper protection.
Shirley Bear grills fired himself he has even more limited skills than Joe from duel survival. There is no true survival expert that will teach you anything that Bear Grylls does. I would take Joe over him anyday. I think Cody and grylls should do there own show and piss on Discovery!
Maybe a Tru-tv or even Spike network that would destroy discovery! Too bad. Cody and joe look like they learned how to work together. With him I think he keep them safe. G I joe likes.
To do think without worry of danger. Well it look good on tv. I hope the show survive. Discovery what are you thinking? Cody is da man! Dave and Cody were great! I also hope another network picks up Cody and does a similar show. Cody made the show. Hope we can see him on another another network. Ok, so can someone catch me up? The show started with Cody and a guy named Dave, right?
Then Dave was fired and everyone was pissed and he was replaced by Joe. Now Cody is gone? Do I have it right? Discovery Communications has terrible management I know — I used to work for one or two of them , but like most American corporations, management is a bunch of people who like each other, nit a group of competent professionals putting their best creative efforts together in a cohesive team to maximize their return on investment.
A shame, because once in a while they catch some excellent IP. Then, they fuck it to the goose, just like they have now with Dual Survival.. I agree that Cody made the show, and I enjoyed the passion and his intellect. The show will suck without him, so I expect it to sink in the ratings, and be gone within 12 months. The fact is, humanity went barefoot for thousands of years, because walking barefoot massages the feet like reflexology, making the human person healthier by reducing stress, releasing toxins, and so on.
And Cody is right that his callouses are tough, and allow him to withstand heat and cold. I did a movie with a guy the DP who went barefoot during winter in CT! So it works. How is Joe a dick? Cody was supposed to start a fire while Joe is collecting wood. I believe Cody even admitted he was the woman of the two. I have been watching Dual Survival since the first episode!
Cody is the man! When Dave was let go that was a bummer but still worth watching because of Cody! No Cody no dual watchers in this house!
My hubby and I will not ever watch again. We will miss you Cody! Good on you for not wavering when it comes to being true to your beliefs!!! I loved watching Cody and learned from him. I was sure Joe was the one who left because Cody made the show. When another network picks up Cody in a new show I will absolutely tune in. My husband got me watching this show but without Cody my husband and I are not watching.
What ever the problem no Cody,no show now no problem. It just wont be as interesting. Cody was the show. Cody and Dave where a pair that where enjoyable while Joe is putz, a self absorbed know it all that had his head and ass reversed. I grew up in a military family so we moved frequently, from Europe to various locales in the US.
What type of music do you listen to? How did you get picked for Dual Survival? At the time, the four of us "wilderness" people were paired alone with four military people.
Both genres of people were rotated into pairs and asked to complete random survival tasks in order to see who fit well with each other; to see who had the best chemistry. Competence in actual survival skills was a very secondary concern. Although Discovery chose me during the first round, Discovery continued to search for my military partner for two more chemistry tests that lasted two months. In all, I went thru 11 military persons. Then I tested with many more military guys after they got rid of Dave.
The rest of the story turned into the most dysfunctional work environment I have ever been involved with, as only an appalling lack of leadership, greed, and deceit can create.
I am a survival skills professional despite a TV show, not because of one, as is too often the case. At this point, I am intrigued with getting feedback from the show with no personal bias from myself.
Beware the on-line survival expert as they are usually full of shit. I live what I do, thus my homestead requires attention, as does my school and books. I also live in the wilderness, and while I have modern communications, they work slower than city options. Facebooking is more cumbersome on a satellite system that can be influenced by many outdoor and technical variables.
I do however find time when i can to make a post, and I appreciate the patience of the Facebook crowd and other social media. Box Prescott, Arizona U. The main goal of an outdoor-survival instructor is to save life," Lundin says. So Dual Survival from the get-go is a fed-up thing. It's like having Dual Plumbers and one of them is an electrician. Hawke, who served 24 years in the Army, agrees. According to Lundin, during casting for Dual Survival , neither Original Media nor Discovery seemed concerned about the stars' qualifications.
In Lundin's opinion, this attitude infects nearly all survival TV. Many people presented as experts simply aren't, and it's difficult, he admits, for the average viewer to know the difference. No organization bestows the title "survival instructor" on qualified individuals. But those who are credible should have extensive experience and the proper mind-set. Despite his reservations, Lundin enjoyed shooting early episodes of Dual Survival.
Though he didn't think much of Canterbury's skills, their oddball dynamic worked. But when he found that Canterbury had inflated his military record and Discovery hadn't properly vetted him, Lundin was "disgusted.
His partnership with Teti seemed rocky from the start. In Teti's first episode, Lundin explains why drinking your own urine is a terrible idea. Teti does it anyway. A few episodes later, in New Mexico, against Lundin's advice, Teti insists on killing a rattlesnake. Then in Hawaii, Teti kills a wild boar with a spear he made. The focus on the spectacular over the sensible wore on Lundin.
Much emphasis was placed on hunting, despite the fact that, during a hour survival ordeal, starvation is a virtual impossibility, so expending calories stalking big game is foolish. Reached by email, Teti admits, "You won't starve in three days, but the purpose of the show is to teach the viewer skills they'll need in the event they're caught in a real-world survival situation. Many times, that may go on longer. As Season 4 began, Lundin and Teti continued to butt heads, but since the show was built on the idea of friction between two opposing personalities, Lundin's departure midway through the season was puzzling.
Discovery and Original Media put together a "behind the scenes" episode they hoped would explain his exit. In it, Lundin was shown laughing uproariously at inappropriate moments, tossing their gear off a cliff into water, and appearing to have trouble coping with the show's rigors.
His arguments with Teti were shown growing progressively fiercer, culminating in a colossal blowout in Norway that was depicted as the effective end of their partnership. As Teti sees it, "When Season 4 kicked off, I started calling Cody out on things that I wouldn't have in Season 3 for the sheer fact I was brand new to TV and was knocking the rust off my survival skills.
We're both type A personalities. Add some stress and polar opposite opinions about how one should conduct [himself] in a survival situation and you can have explosive results. I think Cody was just at the end of his rope with the show. Lundin refers to his final episode of Dual Survival as the "defamation episode" and maintains it was edited purposefully to make him look bad.
The Norway trip came on the heels of visits to Sri Lanka and Oman and was to be part of a run of four episodes scheduled back-to-back, a punishing itinerary that the network insisted on but that Lundin believes displayed a blatant disregard for the cast and crew's well-being. In earlier seasons, they had taped only two episodes in a row, and even then, Lundin was hospitalized in Romania during Season 3 with extreme exhaustion and a respiratory infection. When he was told the workload would be doubled for Season 4, "I knew that was a bad idea.
About a week later, he says, he was fired. Discovery wouldn't confirm or deny the specifics of Lundin's departure. In early October, Teti's membership in the Special Forces Association was revoked following questions about whether he, like Canterbury, exaggerated his military experience. Only 10 people in the last 50 years have been similarly dismissed from the group.
As of mid-October, plans for Teti to appear in Dual Survival 's upcoming fifth season had not changed. Part of the disconnect between the network and folks like Lundin, Hawke, and Stroud may be the result of the culture clash that happens when television executives work with people who spend most of their time outdoors and often boast about how little they watch TV. Another issue, though, is simply differing priorities. According to Discovery's O'Neill, over the years, the network has developed some basic guidelines for survival programming.
They've got to understand and appreciate that that participant is being incredibly challenged by their circumstances and environment. The network's latest survival blockbuster is Naked and Afraid , which pairs a different man and woman each episode, in a different location, attempting to endure 21 days with no clothes and only one survival item they've each brought along.
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